Should i go for LT+2.0????

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2011-12-05 at 02:29AM UTC #4742
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kingofgames

hi,i have been waiting a long time to go for LT+2.0 as dash update was postponed..But as it is releasing today,i was thinking to go for LT+2.0.Do you guys suggest that i should go for 2.0 as 3.0 has not got any date for release.I want to know that will LT2.0 plays all the games..I DONT PLAY ONLINEEE.so will i be fine with lt+2.0??

2011-12-05 at 03:56AM UTC #4744
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Maad_Player

There are two things you must consider…

First and most important: If you have a system that must obey AP 2.5 security rules, like a benq for example, and have been logged into xbox live at all the last few weeks, then you must use LT 3.0. Your system more than likely took a silent update that changed the DAE.bin AP 2.5 challenge tables and will disable all games that run AP 2.5 security like XGD3 games and some older XGD2 AP 2.5 games.

If you have an iHAS burner and have a Hitachi drive model that does not support AP 2.5 checks you will probably be OK on LT 2.0 as these drives only support LT-MAX backups. If you have a later model Hitachi that does support AP 2.5 checks then refer to the first paragraph.

If you are burning truncated XGD3s then you will be fine on LT 2.0 (2.01 for Samsung) as long as you have not taken the silent update. LT 2.0, for everything except Hitachi, supports truncated XGD3s. The main question you should ask yourself is if you have been on live recently. A silent update hit the live network a few weeks ago changing the AP 2.5 challenge tables, so if your system was on live since that silent update then you will have to wait for LT 3.0… if your DVD drive supports AP 2.5 security. I have seen posts stating that Samsung drives do not support AP 2.5 security though I have not been man enough to go live with any of my Samsung units yet.

2011-12-05 at 04:07AM UTC #4745
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QuickMythril

i noticed you added the tag “xbox 360 slim” to this thread, so i am going to assume you have a slim with a liteon drive. the only thing LT 3.0 is being developed for is to be a permanent solution to the changing ap2.5 challenges. LT 2.0 will play all types of games xgd2, xgd2 with ap2.5, and xgd3 (which all have ap2.5). if your console has been online lately, then you will have an updated dae.bin which affected the ap2.5 challenges requested by your xbox. using LT 3.0 and discs burned with topology data (neither of which are available yet), you will always be able to provide the correct responses to any possible ap2.5 challenge that microsoft activates. which means after you have topology data on your disc, you won’t have to reburn them again due to a dashboard update. you say you don’t play online, so if that means you literally never have signed into xbox live, then you shouldn’t have the “silent update” that affects the dae.bin. however, if you have signed in (even on a silver account), done a network connectivity test, updated your dashboard online, or anything else which would have caused your xbox to connect to live even for a minute, then you probably have the silent update. unfortunately there is no easy way to tell other than by trying a game. having a slim would make me paranoid, since it has a wi-fi card built-in which could automatically connect to a wireless connection when i was unaware of it. usually keep my ethernet cord unplugged from my xbox, but with a slim i would take the wi-fi card out until 3.0 was released.

short answer: if you really haven’t been online, then yes 2.0 will work for all games (as long as the ap2.5 data on the disc matches your dashboard version, which for xgd3 games there has only been one set of challenges)

i don’t know what version of the dashboard you are on. see http://bit.ly/ap25list and http://bit.ly/ap25faq for more info on which ap2.5 challenges are active in which dashboard version

Note to Maad Player: all Samsung drives and Hitachi drives older than the 78/79 models definitely can not perform ap2.5 challenges and therefor are immune to changes to the dae.bin, including the silent update. if you have an xbox with a samsung, and are staying offline due to concern of getting flagged, or being unable to continue playing your ap2.5 titles, fear not. you have been blessed with a gift, use this gift to its fullest potential.

2011-12-05 at 04:53AM UTC #4747
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kingofgames

thnx for ur early replies……..i am not affected by that evil silent update……infact i dont play online at all…..so do you think going for LT+2.0 will be a good idea for me…….

2011-12-05 at 05:00AM UTC #4748
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kingofgames

i have latest 14696 beta…..i updated it thru usb,not by xbl…

2011-12-05 at 05:29AM UTC #4749
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QuickMythril

i don’t think it’s gonna work, you shouldn’t have taken the beta dash, since no games require it…

Although the dae.bin changed in the initial v2.0.14686.0 preview update, its appended challenge was not active, which accounts for why participants were still able to play AP2.5/XGD3 backups. With SU 14692, the previously dormant challenge table has now been activated, and all AP2.5/XGD3 backups containing outdated AP25 replay data will fail the system’s AP2.5 challenges and result in a failure flag. This now means that all LIVE-connected users on both the current 13604 retail dash and 14692 preview dash are faced with the same situation, and needless to say, are still advised to avoid playing any AP2.5/XGD3 backups

2011-12-05 at 07:20AM UTC #4756
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kingofgames

ohhhhh nooo……btw thnx for ur help…..till when is the LT+3.0 going to release

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