which hitachi 78/79 don't do AP2.5 checks

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2011-12-10 at 02:40AM UTC #4945
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Craitz

okay, updated to newest dash (looking cool^^) and the xgd2 backup WITHOUT AP25 sectors still boots fine…
also my backup of AC: revelations is booting and playable…even did a title update on that and still everything looks fine, xval is clean and i’m very relieved xD
so i can be quite sure that my drive (hitachi 79fl 4d20) does not do ap25 checks :)
lt+3.0 can take as long as it needs^^

2011-12-10 at 02:55AM UTC #4947
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phrizz

Craitz:
Nice work m8, glad to hear the trend is catching on a bit =) If people with the other drive firmwares also tested and we eventually possibly discover that the majority of them do not perform AP25 checks, it would eliminate a LOT of stress while awaiting Hitachi 3.0. I don’t want to see fellow Hitachi owners stuck in the same boat as we were waiting for 2.0, it got pretty ugly around here.

If we don’t really need 3.0 anytime soon, I agree that it wouldn’t matter how long it took for it to release for Hitachi, which would be the ultimate “in-your-face” to the Lite-On and BenQ owners who were shitting wallaby feces all over us.

2011-12-10 at 08:34PM UTC #4968
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Hitachi

@phrizz, I can confirm that my Hitachi drive (78fk 4e10) does NOT preform ap2.5 checks! I’ve always known that my drive couldn’t preform these checks, because when ap2.5 protection was first introduced, I was playing AC:B without any problems. I’m on the latest dashboard, and my xgd2 backup WITHOUT ap2.5 sectors boots flawlessly! Just thought I would post this to get the word out! – Jacob

2011-12-10 at 10:20PM UTC #4971
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gemok

I’ve got a 79 4c30 I’m not at home this week but will try and test with a xdg2 ap 2.5 next weekend. I’m fairly confident it doesn’t do the checks after my test with driver but for completeness will do another :-)

2011-12-11 at 11:43AM UTC #4985
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XMODZILLAX

i have a 78e10 and a 794c30 i could play black ops and other ap25 games also xgd3 all until the 2nd update couldn’t play the xgd3 only because i burnt those xgd3 games on a lg dvd burner if they were burnt with b/max i would be still able to play them so if its not done with the lite on ihas as they recommend you’ll probably have to re burn with burner max,

2011-12-12 at 02:06AM UTC #4992
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phrizz

Okay, an updated list of drives and information regarding their AP25 checking capability:

78 – 4b00 – Currently untested. Have one? Test it with an XGD2 AP25 backup that is confirmed in ABGX to have NO AP25 Replay Data present (make sure to Disable Writes so abgx does NOT patch the AP25 data).

78 – 4c30 – Currently untested. Have one? Test it with an XGD2 AP25 backup that is confirmed in ABGX to have NO AP25 Replay Data present (make sure to Disable Writes so abgx does NOT patch the AP25 data).

78 – 4d20 – Currently untested. Have one? Test it with an XGD2 AP25 backup that is confirmed in ABGX to have NO AP25 Replay Data present (make sure to Disable Writes so abgx does NOT patch the AP25 data).

784e10Hitachi (Jacob) tested an XGD2 backup that had NO AP25 sector.
Drive confirmed to NOT perform AP25 checks. (Thanks m8!)

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794b00self-tested with AC:B that had NO AP25 sector.
Drive confirmed to NOT perform AP25 checks.

794c30gemok tested with XGD3 Driver San Fran, but will confirm with an AP25 XGD2 as soon as possible. XMODZILLAX has also been playing AP25 games without issue, but again, confirmation test is pending. (Thanks guys! gemok: post your results when you find out and I will update the list in a new post)

794d20Craitz tested with AC:B that had NO AP25 sector.
Drive confirmed to NOT perform AP25 checks. (Thanks m8!)

79 – 4e10 – Currently untested. Have one? Test it with an XGD2 AP25 backup that is confirmed in ABGX to have NO AP25 Replay Data present (make sure to Disable Writes so abgx does NOT patch the AP25 data).

So…
78 – 4b00
78 – 4c30
78 – 4d20
and
79 – 4e10
are either currently untested or not yet confirmed. Have one of the drives listed and want to help? Test it with an XGD2 AP25 backup (AC:B, CoD Black Ops, or one of the four other AP25 games) that is confirmed in ABGX to have NO AP25 Replay Data present (make sure to Disable Writes so abgx does NOT patch the AP25 data!)

2011-12-12 at 08:17PM UTC #5011
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goyik

As I previously said, I have a Hitachi 79 4b00. So, can anybody confirm me that my drive don’t do AP 2.5 checks only with saying that I can sucessfully play Gears Of War III and Need For Speed: The Run, obviously both XGD3 and unpatched (because abgx doesn’t patch xgd3 games yet)?. Can I update to the new dashboard safely?.

2011-12-12 at 09:04PM UTC #5012
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QuickMythril

can’t say for sure, but safest way to test and avoid flag is take a burned iso that was ripped with xbc and NO dae.bin file and run it thru abgx360 with writes disabled to ensure no ap sectors are present. flash to LT 1.1 which had 3 minute black screen xval flag protection. (i assume this still works with current dash, but maybe it was removed due to dash incompatibility…) if it boots on a dash that required an ap2.5 challenge for that game then your drive is immune.

2011-12-13 at 01:10AM UTC #5015
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phrizz

goyik:

79 – 4b00self-tested with AC:B that had NO AP25 sector.
Drive confirmed to NOT perform AP25 checks.

Meaning, I tested with my own system using AC:B with no AP25 sector, booted fine & no X value change. All you had to do was read my post and your question was answered.

2011-12-13 at 01:51AM UTC #5016
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QuickMythril

there could be some reason that your 79 doesn’t perform checks, while his does. from my understanding the 78/79 drive are all capable of checks, it’s seems that many of the xboxes with 78/79 drives just aren’t requesting the check in the first place. i don’t know why this is. i just don’t want someone to “get banned” cause of us. it’s good to promote self-testing and it would also provide support to these other findings.

but on the other side, yes, you have the same drive and firmware revision. it would be interesting to see if it fail to boot also, as it would provide a counterexample.

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