Warning! Dae.bin Being Silently Updated Through LIVE

First and foremost, a warning — at this current time it is advised that you stay offline and avoid playing any AP2.5/XGD3 backups. It has been confirmed by the team that the dae.bin is now being silently updated on all LIVE-connected boxes.

This update is not being deployed via a SystemUpdate or TitleUpdate, but rather occurs in the background without any visual indication or prompt to the user. As such, there is no means by which it can be cancelled or avoided, other than not connecting to LIVE. If you've connected to LIVE in the past 24 hours, your system has likely already been updated with a changed dae.bin.

All AP2.5/XGD3 backups that contain the now older AP25 replay data will fail the system's AP2.5 challenges and indeed flag your system (the flagging has also been confirmed by the team).

Like our news a few days ago, the dae.bin is now being changed by way of an appended challenge table in the same manner on current retail dashes (13604) as it is on the preview dash (14686), however the content of the challenge tables differ. The team has determined that the appended challenge table appears to be unique per console and contains indentifying information. This means that everyone's dae.bin is different, and can potentially be traced back to your specific console. Therefore, sharing your dae.bin with others is not advisable.

More info to come.

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190 Responses to Warning! Dae.bin Being Silently Updated Through LIVE (Including 24 Discussion Threads)

  1. avatar Brett says:

    This literally posted as i just found out. Bummer. Banhammer here i come. Tried NFS the RUN no boot. Xva'd and failed ap2.5 challenge. Sneaky sneaky MS. Unless they are doing this just stop the games from being played as their banhammer has been bad press in the past

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  2. avatar aus says:

    s**t. s**t. s**t. s**t.

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  3. avatar Anonymous says:

    So ur saying we r/ will be getting banned soon??

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  4. avatar Daveiac says:

    This means we're all basicalli f***ed!

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    • avatar ihatenoobs says:

      dont be such a dips**t – how can you possibly be "f**ked"

      grow up you f**king dumb redneck and either buy your games or glitch your console. Only the weak and retarded are "f**ked"

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  5. avatar Zebular says:

    Well I bet the old Hitachi drives will be safe when 2.0 comes out :D

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  6. avatar Quick_Mythril says:

    ah finally they figured it out. so if you can't dump your own nand you will not be able to reburn your discs properly. even if you can, they can still scramble you everyday if they wanted. that is why some people can still play some games, their dae.bin just happened to stay the same for some games and not for other games.

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  7. avatar Madmoney0828 says:

    So ur saying we r/will be getting banned soon??

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  8. avatar Farve says:

    What if I have a legit copy of MW3 but a modded console with LT2.0? Is that safe to play or do I have to flash back to stock? Just asking because flashing back to stock cost money because I have to go back to my go-to guy

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  9. avatar HicKisH says:

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but with older drives, samsung and older hitachi, that do not support ap2.5, this should not be an issue, correct?

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  10. avatar Sunny says:

    I think Live update silently and changed Dae.bin is started from the 13604 dash update, they silently install the changed dae.bin to hit the console today. Before I update to dash 13604, my Xval still clean, after update to 13604, i never connect to xboxlive until today, but my Xval now have AP25 challenges failed.

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